How can I be saved
I have commited many sins in my life so far and I want to change this all aroung I want to have Christ in my heart please help
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Permalink Reply by Disciple Mike on -
Lk 18:42 And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee.
It starts by Faith(Your Faith)
Mk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Then it requires your belief(a work)
Jn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Your beleif should bring you to Jesus and through Jesus you might find salvation.. IF'''''
Jn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
If you choose to open the door you WILL FIND SALVATION THROUGH JESUS.
Thats the ONLY Guarantee....
First Faith, second Believe, third find Jesus, and most importantly Seek and Knock and then go through the door...
Peace be with you...
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Permalink Reply by Havana on -
Just ask Him to be your Lord and Savior and invite Him into your heart. After that confess your sins to God and ask Him to forgive and cleanse you. Lastly,ask God for an infilling of the Holy Spirit. Now you'll need to read your bible daily and talk to God from your heart. Start with the book of "John." Read that. Its the ideal start.
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Permalink Reply by Kathy on -
I would like to add a couple of my most favorite Bible verses from II Cor 5:17-19a
17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! 18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them.
I don't have a whole lot to add to what has already been said about how to be saved, this more covers AFTER you're saved. You are a NEW creation, you are not the same. You mentioned committing many sins, God reconciled is to Himself in Christ and doesn't count those against us when we're in Christ. All that's required of you is to believe and accept the offer of reconciliation that God initiated for us! How great is that!
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Permalink Reply by TS Owens on -
If Jesus paid for all yours sins past present and future in His lifes blood on the Cross then you cannot go to Hell. But Jesus did not die for the sins of the whole world believing and unbelieving. Jesus only did that for all who would truly trust (aka believe which is not a work catholics!) someday. The way you know if Jesus died for you is that you will repent (aka hate your sin and who you are as a sinner and desire for Him to make you a new person). This will become more clear to you the more you study scripture for yourself and pray for His help. Get to a church that trusts Gods word alone or else Mike the catholic will have you doing all these rituals and trusting your baptism (works) instead of only what Jesus already accomplished on the cross Jesus said "It is paid in full" right before He died. Thats why anyone can be forgiven forever if they repent and trust Him alone and God knew who those people would be before time began.
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Permalink Reply by Disciple Mike on
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Mr. Owens ..
Dont even begin to start attacking me or my denomination. This is your first and last warning. Everything has been peaceful here and it will remain that way if I have any say. I will delete any further post that are hateful or attackfull. You may discuss things but do it with Love...
PS. To beleive is an action and an action is a form of a work. Otherwise satan beleives in Jesus and yet because he doesnt beleive to the point of following him its not going to help him and the same goes for us. We can beleive in Jesus all we want but unless we start to follow Him were damned...Unless of course He decides to show us some extra Mercy and Grace and still rescue us.
Thats for Him to decide....
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Permalink Reply by TS Owens on
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Mike,
You dont need to make threats. (By the way are you the admin on this site or what are you talking about when you say this is my last warning, get real). Now look Im not trying to be a jerk or anything when I say that. Everything I said to Ella is true. Obviously I know you disagree but I stand by my statement publicly. It was not hateful and it was not posted for your benefit. Get real and stop being so sensative. I understand you and I are coming from two totally different worlds on these things but Its not a sin to tell the truth the way I did. Your definition of saying things "in love" is not Biblical. I didnt say a bad word, I didnt even tell Ella to hate you, I just implied your motives might be to get her to become Catholic just like I want her to become a 5pt protestant like me. Please dont try to silence me with the "you hurt my feelings" card, be an adult about it and dont be intolerant of my intolerance. As a fellow sinner I love you Mike! Thats why I refuse to pretend anyone will get to Heaven through any works we do, its only through the work Jesus already did. No hard feelings on this end and you shouldnt have any either.
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Permalink Reply by Disciple Mike on
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Mr Owens..
Im sorry I didnt mean to come at you as a threat. I just was trying to nip this in the bud. I dont want it to turn into a catholic bashings. I say this because this has happened time and time again here. I also didnt see the call for singling me out by name in this thread.
And yes Im a Moderator of the site and have been for several years. And when you say: "I didnt even tell Ella to hate you, I just implied your motives might be to get her to become Catholic just like I want her to become a 5pt protestant like me." That is not my intension and it shouldnt be yours either. THe purpose of sharing with one another should be to find truth no matter what and were it is. Not to make others become like us. Because what if you or I is wrong? Then we will be pulling someone in the wrong direction and that wouldnt be good. So instead of trying to recrute one another we should try to be learning from one another...
Let me ask you this question,,,Did Judas believe in Jesus?
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Permalink Reply by TS Owens on
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Dear Disciple Mike,
You said "I dont want it to turn into a catholic bashings. I say this because this has happened time and time again here" Mike can I suggest why this might be your experience? This is just my opinion but I think you should have started holypal.com with the description being specifically "The premier Roman Catholic social network". But since you didnt do this, when i first came here I felt a little caught off guard. I wasnt looking to refute Romanism when I came here. Because when you just call it a Christian site I automatically thought it would be protestant. So I sign up and find Mormons and Papists, and I immediately am determined to warn people. Because eternity is a long time to be wrong. Now when I wrote "I just implied your motives might be to get her to become Catholic just like I want her to become a 5pt protestant like me" it was because you chose to create a site to mingle with non-catholics too. If this is not your intention as you claim it not, then change the site to Roman catholic specific and I will gladly flee the place for my life. But if it isnt your intention, why isnt it! Rome says it should be! From your viewpoint you need to convert people to your religion because the rccc claims only Roman Catholics go to Heaven. No other than the council of Florence says all those who die in any other than Roman Catholic church will go to Hell forever. Thats the cult about it. Your church says its their way or Hell. If you believe it, dont be ashamed to admit it. I think that makes Jesus furious at you and the rccc and that he is going to pour out his wrath on the rccc as depicted in Revelation where Jesus destroys the whore (rccc) of babylon who rides the beast. Now, if your not ticked off to much to keep reading I would like to acknowledge something I did that was wrong. Your right I should not have singled you out in the thread. It was unecessary I should have just put "roman catholic" in general. Please forgive me for acting like we know each other when we dont. I wouldnt have bothered me if I was in your shoes but most people arent like me. I should have been more thoughtful. Afterall, my beef is NOT with Disciple Mike its with the Papacy. Its not personal and ask your forgiveness if it feels that way. I dont want it to be. Its your beliefs I hate and they arent your invention they are Romes. So I will oppose the Vatican with all I am always. As for your question, Judas proved that he did not have a repentent trust in Jesus. In scripture, when Judas felt sorry (which is not repentence) for betraying Jesus, Judas did repent to God (what a true disciple does), instead he tryed to give the money back to the Jews and hanged himself in an act of rebellion against God himself.
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Permalink Reply by Disciple Mike on
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Mr. Owens..
I really dont even know how to respond to you. I really pray God will open your mind and heart to Him and His church. Because to say catholics arent christians is really sad. To attack members of your own body is sad. You dont have to agree with doctrine and the teachings of tradition in the RC but to attack or reject any brothers or sisters who proclaim Jesus as the savior is wrong. Not only wrong but unbiblical as well. The catholic teachings dont condemn members outside the catholic church, that is simply not true. Its a false teaching that the protestant reform teaches about the RC. I have attended several masses and never once has the church preached condemnation to protestants. In fact were more tolerant then all the protestants combined because we beleive in purgatory. So in truth we beleive many will get to heaven including souls outside the church all together.
Second, this isnt my site. Im a moderator of the site and we allow all who would like to come here and discuss there faiths. Just like you would like to discuss your false gospel teachings, others are entitled to discuss theres. You said something interesting to MichaelJ I would like to touch upon.
"I appreciate your beliefs regarding the atonements extent, your view is what I was always taught and have believed up until a year or two ago. I have changed my view of course."
By your own statement you admit you were wrong and admit you changed your beleif's. So if you were wrong once what makes you so sure your not wrong again?
Basically your whole post is nothing but heresey's. The whore of babylon and all of your other info comes from a bias writing you have read. It would take far to much of my time to respond to the garbage you posted. Beleive what you would like and say what you would like. Its you that will be judged in the measure you are judging, not me. I would suggest not saying things so negative about things you really have know knowlegde about because if your wrong you are kinda getting yourself in trouble. Do you really want to stand before the Lord if what you are teaching is wrong about the RC and infact its the church Jesus instituded. I know I wouldnt...
My point about Judas was he beleived in Jesus and knew who he was and even followed him for a time, yet he turned and he proves once saved always saved in a false teaching. And proves just beleiving is false as well. Read my blog on the A,B,C's of mercy and beleiving.
PS.. Christian doesnt mean protestant...
shalom
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Permalink Reply by TS Owens on
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So admit the Council of Trent was wrong when they declared damnation on all grace alone faith alone protestants. I notice you didnt address that. How about the Council of Florence declaring anyone who is not a Roman Catholic will go to Hell, NOT just purgatory (which doesnt exist anyways). I notice you didnt address that either. Will you condemn that Council too. The magisterium never has and probably never will. So I guess catholic means Christian to you. Your inconsistent. You must be just picking and choosing what makes you comfortable about romanism and ignoring the rest. Heres an honest question: Would you please share with me whats the number one reason why you became a roman catholic and why I should become one too? Why is it the true way! Gimme that number one foundational presupposition from your perspective that has you so convinced. Mine is soli deo gloria! Which is why I go by sola scriptura. Thats how I got to where I am. Just so you know. No hurry since I dont have internet at home. Just sometime when you get the chance I would just really like to try and understand. I just dont see how anyone can trust the pope or any other sinner for that matter.
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Permalink Reply by Disciple Mike on
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Mr. Owens.
Why do you act like you know me? You say things like you have discussed several things with me. I am kinda confused about that. It appears to me you make alot of assumptions about me. It also appears you have no desire to be educated in the truths of RC and there teachings. I say this because of your statement:
"So I will oppose the Vatican with all I am always."
Your mind is made up by this statement and that is never a good thing because what your saying is even if you start finding out that there are truths being taught in the RC you still wouldnt change. This worry's me greatly because you are actually leaning on your own understanding and assuming that this time your right, even though you admit that you beleived as MichaelJ in the recent past. Again I ask, if you were wrong before how can you be sure your not wrong again?
I didnt respond about the council's because your mind is made up. But I will say this, show me were it say's this, because you are ripping it out of context. The RC has never condemed everyone outside the RC. It condemns the teaching's of sola scripture and faith alone because they are false gospel's. It never has condemned the souls of these teachings, there is a difference.
Catholic means universal to me and unified. Its history proves this as well. It has remained unified for over 2000yrs. And its the only christian denomination to have done this.
"Would you please share with me whats the number one reason why you became a roman catholic and why I should become one too? "
If I had to pick one I would say because of the Body and Blood of our Lord. (The Eucharist).. It is the only church to date that has the real presence of the Body and Blood. No other denomination of the christian body offer's it and that is my number one reason.
shalom...
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Permalink Reply by TS Owens on
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I emailed you the specific places where rccc councils I referenced were quoted. Did you get a chance to look at it yet?
I could be wrong on secondary issues where Ive misinterpreted scripture but primary doctrines like faith alone justification not by works is so clear In scripture Im convinced I cannot be wrong because God said it. Whenever you say it sounds so postmodern like your a moral relativist. There is absolute truth and you can actually KNOW some things are absolutely true without constantly being in doubt. The fact nobodies perfect isnt a valid excuse for being pluralistically pc all the time. Your right my mind is made up about the rccc because my mind was made up on sola scriptura first but my last question which you answered about the eucharist was an honest one that always makes me wonder so thanks for answering. My prayer for you is that Jesus would have mercy on you a sinner as he did me the chief of sinners and grant you repentance of mans traditions. In this way I can hate your religion and still love you as a catholic person I dont know personally.
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