I was wondering if you believe that there is a rapture. And if you do, is it a pre trib, mid trib, or post tribulation rapture that you believe? 

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I'm glad you asked that question thank you.
This fly away device is what was used on the Prophets and Jesus and John Baptist. No absolutely not. There is no such thing. It's a con job for very ignorant people. Sort of "Sell what you have give me the money for we will all fly away as did Enoch. And you won't need earthlythings."
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Thieves and Robbers. There is an ancient curse against such devices.
The only way Jesus can come is to be born of a woman.
[1] Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.
[2] And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.
[3] Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
[4] I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.
[5] Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth.
[6] And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.
[7] And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah.
[8] And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.
[9] Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
[10] Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?
[11] And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

Jesus was fooled by the rapture fly away device?? abdvthe prophets and John the bsptist????   how can we escape this fly away device???   that even fooled The all knowing Jedus?

there no rapture its not written in the bible look up the word air in a strongs corandance and see what you come up with

1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


the word CAUGHT UP, originally from Greek; Harpazō and Latin; RAPTURO, that's where the word RAPTURE came from. Bible is not originally written in English! 


Yahushua (Jesus) was raptured, Elijah was raptured, Enoch was raptured. 


Ecc 1:9  Whatever has happened before will happen again. Whatever has been done before will be done again. There is nothing new under the sun. 


Dan 12:1  The person who looked like a human continued, "At that time Michael, the great commander, will stand up on behalf of the descendants of your people. It will be a time of trouble unlike any that has existed from the time there have been nations until that time. But at that time your people, everyone written in the book, will be RESCUED.


Just like the days of Noah, the true believers will be rescued before the great wrath of God. Not all who claimed to be Christians will be Rapture, read the parable of 10 virgins (Mat 25).  


For more details http://roshhashanahrapture.blogspot.com/ 

I believe there is a rapture, but it is different to how it has been construed by the Church. I am attaching a response to this (same) question posted on another site:

DO YOU BELIEVE? Jesus asked Martha. Martha was speaking about the physical death but Jesus was speaking about the spiritual. In Genesis 5:24 the Word gives us the first instance of a resurrection where it states,” And Enoch walked with God: and he [was] not; for God took him. The Hebrew for took is: lâqach which means accept, bring, buy, carry away, drawn, fetch, get, infold, X many, mingle, place, receive (-ing), reserve, seize, send for, take (away, -ing, up), use, win, and in Hebrews 11:5 Paul tells us by faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

The Greek word used for translation is: metatithēmi means to transfer, that is, (literally) transport, (by implication) exchange, (reflexively) change sides, or (figuratively) pervert: - carry over, change, remove, translate, turn.

In this we can see that God had a plan for those who walked with God and pleased Him, and that plan was that we would be resurrected. Now no other incidence of this resurrection is reported in the Old Testament. If we can understand that we are the temple of God then as Corinthians 3:17 tells us, “ If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are, “ and have we not all destroyed our temple, even going back to Adam. Therefore we need to get back that temple condition but we cannot do it. However, God had a plan, and according to His will Jesus did it for us. This was 2000 years ago, and it is only through his death that a doorway was created for us, and through this doorway he must take us back to the Father. Yes, Jesus has come and is waiting and instead we, that is those churches who do not believe, today, are looking at the sky for the Second Coming for Jesus to finally rapture us and take us home.

In this world no subject is more confusing than the rapture. The word rapture, itself, is not a biblical term, but best describes the state of being transported by a lofty emotion; ecstasy, or an expression of ecstatic feeling. Often used in the plural, or the transporting of a person from one place to another, especially to heaven.

The biblical equivalent for it is “Resurrection,” and in the Greek it is: anastasis, which means standing up again, that is, (literally) a resurrection from death (individual, general or by implication (its author), or (figuratively) a (moral) recovery (of spiritual truth): - raised to life again, resurrection, rise from the dead, that should rise, rising again.
So in the Biblical term, in Greek, and the non-biblical term there appears to be 2 terms, the one is to do with the rise from the physical death and the other is a moral recovery.
Paul in Romans 6:5 gives us a scripture which tells us that the resurrection was not only for Jesus but is also for us, sinners,“ For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection: “ and in 1Corinthians 15:12 he poses a taxing question for us today, “Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? “ We can spend a few minutes meditating on this subject that is never preached, or if it has I have never heard it being preached or mentioned by Christians in conversation, as we continuously look at the rapture and the Second Coming.
In the Old Testament Daniel 12:1 describes a future that is to come, "At that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince who stands for the children of your people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone who shall be found written in the book. The word delivered in the Hebrew is: mâlaṭ, which means to be smooth, that is, (by implication) to escape (as if by slipperiness); causatively to release or rescue; specifically to bring forth young, emit sparks: - deliver (self), escape, lay, leap out, let alone, let go, preserve, save, X speedily, X surely. This the first resurrection, salvation is what was promised. In (2) Dan 12:3 speaks about the present time in which they were living, and the same applies to those today who do not have salvation. Many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. (3) Those who are wise shall shine as the brightness of the expanse; and those who turn many to righteousness as the stars forever and ever. The Hebrew for shine is: zâhar which means to gleam; figuratively to enlighten (by caution): - admonish, shine, teach, (give) warn (-ing). And the Hebrew for those who turn many to righteousness is: tsâdaq meaning, to be (causatively make) right (in a moral or forensic sense): - cleanse, clear self, (be, do) just (-ice, -ify, -ify self), (be, turn to) righteous (-ness), and coupled to this word is another word, rab, which means abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): - (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-ient).
Can we try and understand this message which is delivered from the throne of God to all of mankind. The church certainly appears not to care about what Daniel wrote about for they do little to understand as I understand how important in God’s eyes salvation is. In a book titled “Bauer Encyclopedia of Biblical Theology.” [page 757] Bauer writes, “These examples do not permit of assured conclusions with regard to the idea of resurrection. One feature, however, is undeniably present in the psalms is a growing hope in the possibility of achieving a union with God that will overcome death.” Bauer refers to a mere hope when the reality of that relationship is here before your very eyes. This is not me, John Hopkins, writing. I died on the beach in 1995 when a young girl came into my life on the beach and saved me. I was resurrected there and then. I walked home a new man. I no longer wanted to commit suicide, and instead, I now wanted to live not as I had lived as a drunk and an abusive person but to live Jesus Christ and that has taken me a good part of 15 years to do and I have cried enough tears to fill the Dead Sea.
This is written for the church which does not enjoy the salvation that Daniel mentioned. “Your people shall be delivered.” Daniel wrote then, and if he was here today he would conclude it by saying, “Therefore I say unless ye be born again you cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven, I say repent and be baptized.” If they do this then they would experience the first resurrection which is from their spiritual death which does not allow them to a closeness with God, and instead they have a love for their mortar and brick building.
Judas in the Book of Maccabees 12:43 had more than hope, he believed in the resurrection of the dead, and he prayed for them that was dead and in verse (44) it states, “If he did not believe that the dead would be raised, it would have been foolish and useless to pray for them. (45) In his firm and devout conviction that all God’s favourite people would receive a wonderful reward, Judas made provision for a sin-offering to set free from their sin those who died, and that sin offering came, not by way of Judas’ sin offering but by God who gave us the perfect sacrifice, and we who believe partake of this sin-offering in its entirety, which gives us 2 resurrections, and not just one, for we need two, the first to put to death our sin and the second to rise us to the glory of the heavenly kingdom..

Paul continues the argument in Romans 6:13, “But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen?” and he reasons in (21) For since by man [came] death, (Adam) by man (Jesus) [came] also the resurrection of the dead. This scripture refers purely to our spiritual state of death to sin through the cross. (22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. The catchword is now is alive. This alive in Greek means: ōopoieō, which is to make alive, give life, quicken. In (42) he tells us further, “So also [is] the resurrection of the (sinful) dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption,” This comes through repentance and being baptized as scripture in Act 2:38 which confirms this, “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. “ In this act there is further consequences as told to us in 2Co 3:18 “But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, [even] as by the Spirit of the Lord. “

The Holy Spirit working with us will transform us into the image of Jesus Christ. This is what our spiritual life is all about. This is the purpose for which Jesus gave up his life, and this is what every Christian should be working towards, to help people to come into the kingdom, which requires us to die to sin, this is the first death. Once we repent and are dead to sin God sees not us but the finished product, Jesus in us, as described in 1Corinthians 13:12 “For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. “

We can achieve that state of purity, but it cannot come though our mind, it must come from the spirit inside of us which mingles with God’s Holy Spirit. These are not my thoughts, but a witnessing of what happened in my life, what changed me and others, and neither is it an opinion based on what the church has taught me. On the contrary, all that was lost when I ceased to become a Christian Fundamentalist, and only then I began experiencing God witnessing His truth to me about the kingdom and salvation.

God is here today to change each and every individual including Satanists, if you will allow Him to. It is not about a church which is in plain terms nothing more than a house, but today it has grown too big and lost sight of the purpose it was to have fulfilled. The body of Christ is what counts, the true temple, the individuals who live Christ, walk Christ, talk Christ, do Christ. It is not about learning scripture but about walking it in our daily lives, each move we make must be confirmed by scripture, each word we utter must be governed by scripture. Christ Our Life is given to me to confirm what I have written here, this is received from eManna and is based on the understanding of the scriptures expressed by Watchman Nee, and he uses Col, 3:4 which states, “ When Christ our life is manifested, then you also
will be manifested with Him in glory. Phil. 1:21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. He now explains that many Christians have a wrong concept about the Lord Jesus.
They think that the Lord set up a good pattern for us while He was on earth and that we should imitate this pattern. It is true that the Bible charges us to imitate the Lord. But
the Bible does not tell us to do this by ourselves. There is something we must see before we can imitate Him. Many people want to imitate the Lord, but they repeatedly fail. They
regard the Lord like they regard good Chinese calligraphy, something to be copied stroke by stroke. They do not realize how frail man is and that no fleshly energy could give man
enough strength to imitate Him.

The fundamental relationship between Christ and us is conveyed in the words Christ our life. We can imitate the Lord only because He has become our life. We can ask Him for
strength only because He has become our life. There is no way to imitate Him or be empowered by Him unless we understand the meaning of Christ our life. Hence we must first understand, see, and grasp the secret of Christ our life before we can imitate Him or ask Him for strength.

Colossians 3:4 says, "Christ our life." Philippians 1:21 says, "For to me, to live is Christ." This shows us that the way to victory is for Christ to be our life. Victory is, "For
to me, to live is Christ." If a Christian does not know what is meant by Christ our life, and what is meant by for to me, to live is Christ, he will not experience the Lord's life on
earth; he will not be able to follow the Lord, to experience victory in Him, or to proceed on the course before him.
So to live Christ the very first step is to die to sin. Repentance and acceptance of the Messiah as our saviour gives us the victory over the flesh, the physical death – the recovery of the spiritual truth which takes us from the world and transforms us into a spiritual life, in the kingdom, as described in John 11:25 where Jesus is explaining to Martha about the physical death. Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. In this resurrection,” the Greek word is anastasis and implies a standing up again, that is, (literally) a resurrection from death (individual, general or by implication (its author)), or (figuratively) a (moral) recovery (of spiritual truth): - raised to life again, resurrection. The verse continues, “He who believes in me, though he die, yet will he live,” This is the key which unlocks for us the tree of life. If we look at the meaning of the words we find that the word die remains the same but the word live tells us about a quickening of the spirit, the Greek for live is: zaō, which means to live (literally or figuratively): - life (-time), (a-) live (-ly), to be quickened. So we become alive.We see the world differently and we desire spiritual fruit and make spiritual contact, our spiritual zone becomes alive, we have a beautiful countenance, there is no darkness on our brow. “The other death, to be deceased, is the death of our mortal bodies and the taking on of immortal bodies which is told to us in the Greek which is: apothnēskō, meaning to die off (literally or figuratively): - be dead, death, die, lie a-dying, be slain (X with). In (26) Paul states, the condition under which we receive this new life and resurrection after our death. “And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
So as Watchman Nee wrote, We have to live Christ, and to live Christ we have to believe.

In verse 11:25 John speaks of the regeneration of the soul through repentance and being transformed from the world into the kingdom of God, and in (26) he speaks about the resurrection to an eternal life with the Father. Furthermore if we believe and believe so well that we live Jesus Christ then we have the victory of the cross over death in us, as John 5:29 explains, “And shall come forth; they that have done good to the resurrection of life; (The resurrected to the kingdom of God on earth which is the first resurrection as dealt with above) and they that have done evil, to the resurrection of damnation.” In the latter case of sinners or those who are not born again have a resurrection, but that is one of damnation. Roman Catholic doctrine teaches that there is a resurrection for all, and indeed there must be but they do not all have the same destiny fore there are rewards.

How can a persecutor and the persecuted eat at the same table unless there is repentance and forgiveness by both parties? Now, Acts 24:15 confirms this resurrection of the good and the wicked after our physical death, and this confirms the same hope that the church has as written by Bauer, “And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. “ In the above verse the word hope in the Greek is: elpis which means, to anticipate,

The most important death is not the second death but the first which is death to sin, this is the repentance and the receiving of the Holy Spirit which is the power we need in order to overcome he desires of the flesh so as the Book of Revelations 20:6 tells us, “Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”

In this there is great comfort for those who wish to finish the race and receive the prize described by Paul in 2 Corinthians 5 which speaks of our spiritual body. “For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. (2) For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our house which is from heaven: (3) If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. (We will not be spirits without bodies, ghosts) (4) For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not because we would be unclothed, but clothed, that mortality might be swallowed up in life. (5) Now he that hath wrought us for this same thing is God, who also hath given to us the earnest of the Spirit. (6) Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (7 ) (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) (8) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. (9) Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. (10) For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath done, whether [it be] good or bad.

Paul tells us in Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, - This clearly describes that we are in this life made just and then made perfect by consecration for the purpose of the second resurrection.

This is not New Age this is given to us in the Word of God that tells us that Death has been abolished, and consequently, believers, should experience this rapture not in a future age but in the present age. Paul writes that we might overcome through the Lord Jesus, now in this life., We do not have to wait to be judged when Jesus has already been judged, found guilty, and crucified so that we could be set free. He paid the full price. He bore our sins, so there is no longer any judgment or condemnation for those who believe. Jesus did not come to judge the world but to save it, can you believe this?

Unfortunately as in Mathew 22:23 tells us the Sadducees did not believe the resurrection was possible. “ The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him, (28) “Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.” And in verse (30) Jesus replied, “For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.” (31) But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, (32) I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living, and as they lost it so the church has lost it as they waiting for the second coming. Yes, the Church does not preach about the resurrection either, they do not believe and I presume as much as Paul was put on trial as he tells us in Acts 24:21 where he wrote, “Except it be for this one voice, that I cried standing among them, Touching the resurrection of the dead I am called in question by you this day,” that I will also be called to trial,”

I too will be called to trial but this is what the Spirit is saying to the church today, we need to speak about the resurrection, after all this is what Jesus died for, Mathew 27:53 tells us, “ And came out of the graves (place of interment) after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. The word, “appeared” in the Greek means: emphanizōwhich is to exhibit (in person) or disclose (by words): - appear, declare (plainly), inform, (will) manifest, shew, signify. So they testified, as Jesus calls on each person who is saved to give an account of what God has done for us. This passage needs to be applied figuratively and not to be taken literally to indicate to us that immediately upon his death on the cross salvation came into the world. However, this salvation is not preached by the church. In the Bauer Encyclopedia of Biblical Theology on the resurrection say that it would be a misunderstanding of the phrase ‘resurrection of the just’ if it were sought to deduce from this formula that sinners were to be excluded from the resurrection. The question is which resurrection, if they do not receive the first resurrection then the resurrection that comes to them takes them to where Jesus will not be found.

Now what appears to be lacking is the church is the understanding of salvation, and the work that was done on the cross by Jesus Christ. The message below was given to those who knew of the works that Christ did, and is given to those Christians who do not fully accept the work of the cross, which is for our past sins when we did not know Jesus as our Lord and saviour, and the work of the blood is to cleanse us and to deliver us from the Law of Sin, and through his resurrection we are resurrected with him as the Holy Spirit rises in us, who are now cleansed of all sin, and regarded as children of God, born to do the will of the Father. As sinners unable to overcome our own sin and to live Christ must submit that life to the Spirit within, but we cannot do that and as recorded in Mathew 11:20 Jesus spoke against those who would not repent. “Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not: (21) Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. (22 ) But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you. (23) And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. (24 ) But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee. (25 ) At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.”

Throughout history people have resisted the call for repentance, and felt that somehow God had a plan for each one of us to go to heaven, that I after death. Even in Acts 24:15 Paul states, “ And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust, “ and in this he does not make a statement which affirms what is written by Bauer, but expresses a hope which is shared in no other scripture where as in Mat 13:49 it clearly and unambiguously tells us, “So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, “and Luke 14:14 tells us not to look to rewards and blessings in this life, “And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.” The Greek for just is: dikaios innocent, holy (absolutely or relatively): - just, meet, right (-eous).

This tells us clearly that those who can expect the second resurrection need to be doers of the Word as Paul tells us in Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

To be put right with God the Word tells us that there is only one way, as told in Luke 15:7, “I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.” Jesus tells us that he did not come for the righteous, but for the sinner, however, the sinner needs to repent. Paul tells us in Rom 1:17 “For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. “ Galatians 3:11 confirms,” But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.”

Has the church experienced the fall from grace? Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, (2) Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. (3) And this will we do, if God permit (4 ) For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, (5 ) And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, (6 ) If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.

The commission was: Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. (16 ) He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. From the next verse they receive the power that is within the kingdom of heaven, (17) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; (18) They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. (19) So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. (20) And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with [them], (in the kingdom) and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

Is this what the Church has ignored, if not why are there no miracles, as there were in the days of the early Christians? James 1:23 tells us, For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: He becomes a god unto himself and those who do the work can look to Revelations 22:4 for comfort. “And they shall see his face; and his name [shall be] in their foreheads.” Now once saved we have been put to death and quickened by the spirit as in 1Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit” so we should stay that way. 1John 1:9 tells us, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” Luke 12:32. “Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.” (33) Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. (34) For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (35) Let your loins be girded about, and [your] lights burning; (36) And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. (37) Blessed [are] those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. (38) And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find [them] so, blessed are those servants. (39) And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. The church is the house, and the church has failed. Listen to this you pastors, priests and clergy.

There are three periods called watches, and the word watch in the Greek is: phulakēwhich means, the act, the parson; figuratively the place, the condition, or (specifically) the time (as a division of day or night), literally or figuratively: - cage, hold, (im-) prison (-ment), ward, watch. Joachim of Fiore wrote to the Roman Catholic Church and he gave them his theories which can be considered millenarist; he believed that history, by analogy with the Trinity, was divided into three fundamental epochs:
• The Age of the Father, corresponding to the Old Testament, characterized by obedience of mankind to the Rules of God;
• The Age of the Son, between the advent of Christ and 1260, represented by the New Testament, when Man became the son of God;
• The Age of the Holy Spirit, impending (in 1260), when mankind was to come in direct contact with God, reaching the total freedom preached by the Christian message. The Kingdom of the Holy Spirit, a new dispensation of universal love, would proceed from the Gospel of Christ, but transcend the letter of it. In this new Age the ecclesiastical organization would be replaced and the Order of the Just would rule the Church. This Order of the Just was later identified with the Franciscan order by his follower Gerardo of Borgo San Donnino.
According to Joachim, only in this third Age will it be possible to really understand the words of God in its deepest meanings, and not merely literally. He concluded that this age would begin in 1260 based on the Book of Revelation (verses 11:3 and 12:6, which mention "one thousand two hundred and sixty days"). In this year, instead of the parousia (second Advent of Christ), a new Epoch of peace and concord would begin, thus making the hierarchy of the Church unnecessary.
Joachim distinguished between the "reign of justice" or of "law", in an imperfect society, and the "reign of freedom" in a perfect society.
This is the Third Age he wrote about and as Intuition spoke to him so He has spoken to me to reveal that Joachim was correct. We are now in the Age of the Holy Spirit, and the second Advent of Christ is a new Epoch of peace. “How did we miss it?” They might ask. The answer is, the Watchmen slept, as Luke 12:40 continues, “Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. (41) Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? (42) And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom [his] lord shall make ruler over his household, to give [them their] portion of meat in due season? (43) Blessed [is] that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. (44) Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. (45) But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; (46) The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. (47) And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not [himself], neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many [stripes]. (48) But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few [stripes]. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. (49) I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? “
This is now in the Last Watch. This ends in the year 3000 and if you add this to the date that Adam began in Genesis it is 7000 years in total. I cover this in my prophecies.

So in this the last Watch and we now have to start asking ourselves, “Do I believe.”
1Corinthians 15:12 tells us, “Now if Christ is preached, that he has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? (13) But if there is no resurrection of the dead, neither has Christ been raised. (14) If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith also is in vain. (15) Yes, we are found false witnesses of God, because we testified about God that he raised up Christ, whom he didn't raise up, if it is so that the dead are not raised. (16) For if the dead aren't raised, neither has Christ been raised. (17 ) If Christ has not been raised, your faith is vain; you are still in your sins. (18) Then they also who are fallen asleep in Christ have perished.(19) If we have only hoped, [as Bauer claims about the resurrection in his book the,” Bauer Encyclopedia of Theology”] in Christ in this life, we are of all men most pitiable. (20) But now Christ has been raised from the dead. He became the first fruits of those who are asleep.” ( So before Christ there was no resurrection of ordinary people like you and I.) (21) For since death came by man, the resurrection of the dead also came by man. (22) For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. (23) But each in his own order:
• [Each man has his own order, The Greek for order is: tagma something orderly in arrangement (a troop), that is, (figuratively) a series or succession: - order. My Grandfather, father, me, my son and my grandson and my wife prceeded me by five years in order to write on prophesy given by Daniel and John and to share what I am writing now.]

This tells us clearly that we must have our lamps lit continuously. Christ has come for his church in your and each generation. This is the time for the first resurrection where the kingdom of God was established on earth, from the day Jesus died. This is for a period of 1000 years. When those number of day comes there is no more salvation, in other words when the world truly ends then comes the period Paul refers to in 1Co 15:24 Then the end comes, when he will deliver up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when he will have abolished all rule and all authority and power. (25) For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. (26) The last enemy that will be abolished is death. (27) For, "He put all things in subjection under his feet." But when he says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him. (28) When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.(Through His Holy Spirit) (29) Or else what will they do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead aren't raised at all, why then are they baptized for the dead? (30) Why do we also stand in jeopardy every hour? (31) I affirm, by the boasting in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. (32) If I fought with animals at Ephesus for human purposes, what does it profit me? If the dead are not raised, then "let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.

Do you believe?

By John Hopkins ( Elumnae, 23 Oct 2009)
Hmmm very interesting...
The fact is many will support your view. I myself cannot complain. Yet the Holy Spirit is with the Manchild that the Byzantium and Nicean councils sought to devour. The enemy of the Manchild is a MAN. Men are flesh and blood born of a woman, and are solid and are not spirits in the air. The 666 is the designated target, nothing will change that. And the 666 is a man.
Revelation 13
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a MAN; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

And the force of thre church was diverted in war against disembodied spirits and so has no inheritence in the victory of The King of Kings and Lord of Lords...
1.[12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

But the King of Kings is fighting Men. So those fighting spirits are not with the Lord and his Army.
But that's their way.
1.[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Is the very definition of an Antichrist heresy....
1.[3] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

But many spells were cast by the Olden Kings and Priests...
1.[1] O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

So the 7 deadly Illuminating angels of the Apocalypse are given "Divine weapons" wherewith to fight their way out of the priestcrafts.
Since the men of the Left hand go to the fate of Satan and his Angels, there is A fate in "the Air."
1.[17] And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Not even the Black Death could squeeze repentance from them....
[1] And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
[2] And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
So they say, Jesus must kill all the Living and raise all that ever died to life and he must burn up all green grass and pluck up all the trees and kill all the oceans, and grant the Pope and Nuns eternal life and incorruptible flesh before Satan can be overthrown from being the God of this world. And all the churches must fly away and meet Christ in the Air! And Christ must be in a form not human flesh and not reborn of a woman.
And it is not given to any power or authority to prevent Armageddon. For every thousand years and every 1,460 years the Host of Heaven shall fight back against the Princes of the Air.

But what sayeth the Holy Spirit to the Children of Israel?
Revelation 19
[17] And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
[18] That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
[19] And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
[20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
[21] And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Sharon....I thought you were trying to write a book
I'm not completely convinced, but I don't completely reject the idea of a rapture either. I actually HOPE there's a pretrib rapture so that we don't have to deal with the tribulations to come, but I'm not sure if I see enough evidence of it in the bible. I guess only time will tell!

God has promised strength and faith in adversity.

Don't sweat the stuff God has control over.

Your trials today are preparation for tomorrow.

Ooo- I LIKE this answer!! So true!

For me, I just get excited about a rapture, but, am not sweatin' it- just hopin for it! ☺

Yep, we shall be caught up....pre trib hopefully! :)
no rapture its not in the bible or the strongs corandnce,dont belive satans lies


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