What was the Mark of Cain?  And was this mark a blessing or curse?  The Book of Genesis does not go into the greatest detail on this but merely mentions that God placed it on Cain to protect him. It was a shield of sorts.

 One can read the text of Genesis, chapter four, and see how the various events played out.  Cain envied his brother Abel and killed him because God favored Abel and his sacrifice, whereas what Cain sacrificed (grains and plants) were rejected.  We see in Genesis 4:10 to 4:14 that Cain is cursed and penalized severely but we can see from verse 15 that the mark placed on him is for his protection and no curse.  It is not a further penalty or burden!!!

What was the nature of this mark?  Was it a racial difference as some try to say?  Was Cain turned into an ugly orgre or a Neanderthal like creature?  (some actually say these things.).  Most of these speculation are silly!  The mark was a good thing and for the protection of Cain, despite his committing murder. One might even wonder if Cain was ultimately redeemed. Certainly the Lord cared for and provided for Cain.  We don't hear much more about Cain after some brief genealogies.....

Does the Hebrew text and the early Greek (Septuagint) give us any clues about the mark or sign?  The Hebrew for mark in Genesis 4 is oth or ot and is Strongs number 226.  This signifies a "mark" or "sign".  Note that the final letter for ot is the Hebrew letter Tav, which roughly corresponds to our "T", and up to about 600 BC. this was a cross shaped letter, looking little like the latter squared Hebrew letter.  Could the mark that the Lord placed on Cain be a cross? Some have suggested that this letter can alone indicate "covenant". I think this is very likely and that Cain was actually repentant for his sins. The Septuagint text does not seem to help us determine anything extra. The word mark is rendered semion (semeion) or sign.  It had to be visible enough to warn others so it was either an actual mark or something clear in Cain's activities.  Cain has been demonized down through time but he was probably no more sinful than King David or Saul of Tarsus.

(Also the "serpent seed idea" is nonsense as Cain was sired by Adam as he and Eve had relationships (Gen. 4:1). Adam even exclaims he has gotten a man from the Lord. Cain is not a result of the serpent having sex with Eve!).

And note the earlier form of the TAV---
And in Hebrew or Jewish translations of the Book of Revelation Yeshua is the Alef and the Tav, because in the Hebrew Alphabet the "Tav" is the final letter and it also represents completion.  There is completion in the Cross of Christ Jesus.

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I'll research and get back to you... Meanwhile Answer this. Do you think Jesus God  really has living Angels in human form that smash nations and kill kings with imaculate destruction as he threatened?

Yes, the Lord has Messengers and other beings that do manifest sometimes in human form, and these will do as God so orders, which can mean pouring out wrath...

What order did Jesus give his seven sons? As these are the Light of who? If Peter and Paul are lights to the Gentiles whom do The Seven Candlesticks provide illumination for? If I rose up and destroyed a city would that make me cain?

Who sits on the left of Jesus? Why wasn't cains sacrifice good enough?

There are two answers usually given about Cain's sacrifice.  Some say his offering was not the best or first fruits.  Others say that it was not shed blood of an animal sacrifice akin to Abel's sacrifice, (see Hebrews 9:22, and Leviticus 17:11.)...

Cain did not sacrifice properly and held out on God.  And his attitude was not right.

[Yeah I guess I do get frustrated when I see someone that say they are called and ordained and supposed to have some type of spirit in them continously post their opinion are what some one else's opinion for an answer as if they or the other person's is God. Then I have to go back and correct it with the word of God.]

Gen 4:1  The man had sexual relations with Eve his wife; she conceived, gave birth to Cain[acquisition] and said, "I have acquired a man from the Lord."
Gen 4:2  In addition she gave birth to his brother Abel. Abel kept sheep, while Cain worked the soil.
Gen 4:3  In the course of time Cain brought an offering to the Lord from the produce of the soil;
Gen 4:4  and Abel too brought from the firstborn of his sheep, including their fat. The Lord accepted Abel and his offering
Gen 4:5  but did not accept Cain's and his offering. Cain was very angry, and his face fell.
Gen 4:6  The Lord said to Cain, "Why are you angry? Why so downcast?
Gen 4:7  If you are doing what is good, shouldn't you hold your head high? And if you don't do what is good, sin is crouching at the door — it wants you, but you can rule over it."

[ Can I get an "I agree" on this or at least an "amen" from rest of the brethen or sisters in Heli. Maybe just one like.]

By the way I like the profile picture of your sun god, "Heli."

Royll you are just too much..lol.  I hope your avatar is not lifting hands in homage to my avatar as it is only a heart symbol.  You do seem to be infatuated with me...?  Only worship God and give honor to his son, Yeshua, the Messiah!!! Give honor to God only ...and not mere mortals or creatures..or idols. Heed the words of Paul in Romans 1:21..  Pull yourself together!!!!

You may be laughing but you know that I am right because you worship, Heli. Remember who I got my information from on the other site that we and several other of your fellow worshiping friends belong to although none of you knew that I was a member.

Remember that chart that I took from your page and posted in here and you tried to laugh it off. Well I still have it.

By the way you still deny Jesus. You do not separate the name of Jesus like you did above. His name should be Yeshua the Messiah, not what you posted. Now come back and say that it is an error. Just like you did when I brought up the subject that Heli wasn't in the Old Testament and Eli is in the Old Testament. You are the one full up it thinking everybody is supposed to believe you a person who knows nothing about the Lord God.

By the way there is no way that I would be infatuated with you. I am not a homosexual. That is more up the alley of the Heli worshipers and their ancestors.Don't you remember that one of you ancestral leaders was openly a homosexual. They one who all of you say didn't have anything to do with the book that you showed in the pictures one time so proudly. they even have one now properly named it is the Queen James and if you want to get you one properly named let me know and I will give you the information. That way then you might actually start to read something in the book.

[I told you that you don't read as I have already told another individual that they don't know the Lord either as my avatar shows me being obedient to the one living God and not the non existent Beli Mawr that your avatar shows who you worship.]

1Ti_2:8  Therefore, it is my wish that when the men pray, no matter where, they should lift up hands that are holy — they should not become angry or get into arguments.
You don't even follow the commandments of your dead King James,not like his translators  who followed his commandments.
James gave the translators instructions intended to guarantee that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology and reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and its belief in an ordained clergy.[9] The translation was done by 47 scholars, all of whom were members of the Church of England.
1Ti 2:8  I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

[It doesn't sit there and that's for sure.]

Luk 3:23  And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,


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