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What is the MARK OF CAIN?
What was the Mark of Cain? And was this mark a blessing or curse? The Book of Genesis does not go into the greatest detail on this but merely mentions that God placed it on Cain to protect him. It was a shield of sorts.
One can read the text of Genesis, chapter four, and see how the various events played out. Cain envied his brother Abel and killed him because God favored Abel and his sacrifice, whereas what Cain sacrificed (grains and plants) were rejected. We see in Genesis 4:10 to 4:14 that Cain is cursed and penalized severely but we can see from verse 15 that the mark placed on him is for his protection and no curse. It is not a further penalty or burden!!!
What was the nature of this mark? Was it a racial difference as some try to say? Was Cain turned into an ugly orgre or a Neanderthal like creature? (some actually say these things.). Most of these speculation are silly! The mark was a good thing and for the protection of Cain, despite his committing murder. One might even wonder if Cain was ultimately redeemed. Certainly the Lord cared for and provided for Cain. We don't hear much more about Cain after some brief genealogies.....
Does the Hebrew text and the early Greek (Septuagint) give us any clues about the mark or sign? The Hebrew for mark in Genesis 4 is oth or ot and is Strongs number 226. This signifies a "mark" or "sign". Note that the final letter for ot is the Hebrew letter Tav, which roughly corresponds to our "T", and up to about 600 BC. this was a cross shaped letter, looking little like the latter squared Hebrew letter. Could the mark that the Lord placed on Cain be a cross? Some have suggested that this letter can alone indicate "covenant". I think this is very likely and that Cain was actually repentant for his sins. The Septuagint text does not seem to help us determine anything extra. The word mark is rendered semion (semeion) or sign. It had to be visible enough to warn others so it was either an actual mark or something clear in Cain's activities. Cain has been demonized down through time but he was probably no more sinful than King David or Saul of Tarsus.
And note the earlier form of the TAV---
And in Hebrew or Jewish translations of the Book of Revelation Yeshua is the Alef and the Tav, because in the Hebrew Alphabet the "Tav" is the final letter and it also represents completion. There is completion in the Cross of Christ Jesus.
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Permalink Reply by Apocalypse Joy on -
I'll research and get back to you... Meanwhile Answer this. Do you think Jesus God really has living Angels in human form that smash nations and kill kings with imaculate destruction as he threatened?
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Permalink Reply by Zomok, steve on -
Yes, the Lord has Messengers and other beings that do manifest sometimes in human form, and these will do as God so orders, which can mean pouring out wrath...
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Permalink Reply by Apocalypse Joy on
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What order did Jesus give his seven sons? As these are the Light of who? If Peter and Paul are lights to the Gentiles whom do The Seven Candlesticks provide illumination for? If I rose up and destroyed a city would that make me cain?
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Permalink Reply by ministerKarl on -
If you look at the 'mark' one automatically assumes a physical mark, even of late with barcoding or implants, which is what satan wants us to think or rather believe. The mark (of blood) placed on the homes of some where used as a picture from the physical to the spiritual mark (indwelling of the holy spirit within man) by Christ.
The first murder that occurred here is not easy to understand, specifically how God deals with it. According to Gods law he is condemned to receive death, but we must know that sentence of death upon man has already happened when man rebelled against him first. Through Cain God paints us a picture of fallen man, the wickedness, the deceit, the lies etc. which is the fruit of the original disobediance of man. God now shares with us his mercifullness (to the human family), by not allowing this trembling man, to experience a violent death, to the like of what Cain bestowed on Abel, as we would ourselves reason this to be perfect justice; however his punishment was to be cast out permanently from the presence of the LORD. So we see that God exalted perfect justice according to his law, however still showed great mercy for this underserving man. This picture obvoiusly lost from the generations that followed, except from seth whose lineage went to noah, where all men became of unrepenting evil and were all destroyed.
This act of mercy by God, in form of a 'spiritual mark', unseen but obeyed by men until Cain died, there is no biblical account Cain became saved thereafter; and merely a lineage follows him.
Later in the bible when God speaks of the mark of God or the mark of the beast; we now understand that these marks are unseen and spiritual. Even more so when we know that when we receive the holy spirit, we have Gods 'mark', on the 'head or hands', is an unseen spiritual mark, against which nothing can triumph. Interstingly we do read of them that receive the mark of the beast, which are all the unbelivers, those who do not become saved and side with satan to make war against the most high, God. .. We are all in this war, an immense unseen and slightly seen war...
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Permalink Reply by Zomok, steve on
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@karl, Your response is very practical. Earlier in several discussion I mentioned how the mark of the beast (Rev. 13) was merely a counterfeit to the mark of the Lamb (Rev. 14). The forehead obviously represents beliefs and the hand represents actions. It is spiritual and not barcodes and such. Just the same I still think the mark of Cain might have typological value and point toward the New Covenant in much the same manner as the Israelites striking the door ways with Blood, on a branch of hyssop, points to the cross of Christ, and also the strips that Yeshua received.
Exodus 12:7~~~~~
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Permalink Reply by ministerKarl on
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@steve z, .....or anyone else.......... I wanted to ask you, have you ever done a study on the biblical lineages that became nations with the exact specific promises that were given to them in line with todays countries or nations. ? especially with gad, asher, dan, naphtali, ephrahim and benjamin. Leahs line is reuben, simeon, issachar, zebulun and achar.
I am always trying to find time to do this, ie like manasseh which became the americas will be a large powerful nation and wealth, but will never win a war that type of study or have seen a website who have done this. thx karl.
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Permalink Reply by Zomok, steve on
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@karl, I presume you are speaking of Deuteronomy 33, where Moses blesses the tribes. And Joseph: Ephraim & Manasseh, are highly blessed. Yes, I have studied the issue and it can't be entirely swept under the rug, in as much as Ephraim alone, was to become a company of nations (Gen. 48:19), however, some add racism to it and Nordic theories. Just the same, the Christian west, is blessed, and America is the present high point of Christiandom, despite many faults... The New Covenant People are true Israel..
This is a branching away from the discussion at hand but I don't mind...
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Permalink Reply by ministerKarl on
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@steve Z yup, thx. I find very little info anywhere, best I get stuck in sometime,.... I do know further than manasseh, the brothers descendants made it to ireland and scotland, and later they moved to england, which apparently under the queens seat is a stone piece of davids throne, that they had carried with them.
My focus is not on christianity, but rather how the promises of God are in effect today and formed the nations we know today. I found the relation of the promises being physical in size, and wealth and power, albeit with certain conditional restraints ... anyway its off the topic.. regards k
The Israel of God, is made up up from the believers from all nations...
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Permalink Reply by alan walton on -
@ Karl.....I don't see where you say Manasseh which became the Americas will be a large powerful nation with wealth, but will never win a war??? Why would you say America would never win a war, when it has already won several wars. I guess you forgot about the two wars America waged against the mighty British Empire....the Mexican-American War....The Spanish-American War....World Wars I & II....and Desert Storm....of these America won the first war for independence against the British Empire, led by George Washington...fought the British Empire to a stalemate in the War of 1812....easily defeated Mexico in the Mexican American War and also easily defeated Spain, in the Spanish-American War...defeated Japan plus was the engine that defeated Germany in World War II...and did 95% of the fighting and easily defeated Iraq in Desert Storm....I do agree with Manasseh spreading to America though....
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Permalink Reply by ministerKarl on
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@alan did a brief study a long time ago, .... but am now busy as a hobby of sorts, to draw biblical lineages of the sons and desendants, according to the promises and how nations that they formed in todays times.... bigger and much more complicated as I thought!! will get back when I find it again, .... if you have or seen some info will be appreciated
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Permalink Reply by alan walton on
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@ Karl....yeah...I was a history buff in high school...was always ahead of the teacher ...and would read all kinds of books about history and stuff like lost civilizations and ancient civilizations and such....I probably haven't done the research you have on this topic of the wanderings of the peoples of the earth and where they came from....so I would appreciate anything you have on it as well....
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Permalink Reply by Zomok, steve on
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I use to study this much back in the 80s. I still have much literature on this subject. Back in the 80s I use to listen to America's Promise radio program. The host, Sheldon Emory, spoke much about lost tribes and such, but I doubt if you can equate each European nation with a lost tribe and such.
Sometimes the Germans have been said to descend from the Assyrian...etc...etc...
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